1 00:00:11,030 --> 00:00:08,960 I'm Katie rembert I'm a second year PhD 2 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:11,040 student here at Colorado Boulder working 3 00:00:16,580 --> 00:00:12,690 with Alexis Templeton as part of the 4 00:00:18,019 --> 00:00:16,590 rock powered life nei team and today I'm 5 00:00:21,170 --> 00:00:18,029 going to be presenting some of my 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:21,180 initial work on geologic and hydrologic 7 00:00:24,679 --> 00:00:23,130 controls on the habitability of 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:24,689 terrestrial serpentine izing 9 00:00:30,290 --> 00:00:27,930 environments and so now you're probably 10 00:00:31,820 --> 00:00:30,300 all very familiar with the serpent 11 00:00:33,650 --> 00:00:31,830 anization reaction but this is really 12 00:00:35,540 --> 00:00:33,660 the core geologic process that's behind 13 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:35,550 my research and like Hannah mentioned 14 00:00:39,860 --> 00:00:37,610 what I'm really interested in is the 15 00:00:42,010 --> 00:00:39,870 oxidation of iron coupled to the 16 00:00:46,190 --> 00:00:42,020 reduction of water to form hydrogen gas 17 00:00:49,850 --> 00:00:46,200 because as is as you can see here from 18 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:49,860 this electron tower that hydrogen is a 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:52,050 powerful reductant it can act as a 20 00:00:58,220 --> 00:00:55,050 strong potential electron donor for 21 00:01:00,709 --> 00:00:58,230 microbial metabolism and of course this 22 00:01:04,579 --> 00:01:00,719 has great astrobiological implications 23 00:01:07,820 --> 00:01:04,589 we have detected serpentine on noachian 24 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:07,830 age outcrops on Mars and from 25 00:01:12,770 --> 00:01:10,710 geochemical modeling of the plumes from 26 00:01:16,190 --> 00:01:12,780 Enceladus we believe that the ph of the 27 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:16,200 subsurface ocean is 11 or 12 which could 28 00:01:21,050 --> 00:01:18,210 only be explained by serpentinization 29 00:01:23,630 --> 00:01:21,060 processes and so if serpent anization 30 00:01:26,780 --> 00:01:23,640 did happen in the geologic past in 31 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:26,790 either Mars or Enceladus that suggests 32 00:01:31,580 --> 00:01:28,530 potential habitability of these 33 00:01:33,469 --> 00:01:31,590 environments and so I want to just bring 34 00:01:35,539 --> 00:01:33,479 up the definition of habitability 35 00:01:38,899 --> 00:01:35,549 traditionally in astrobiology you'll 36 00:01:41,899 --> 00:01:38,909 find a binary definition and so in this 37 00:01:44,450 --> 00:01:41,909 review paper by Kyle at all in 2016 and 38 00:01:46,310 --> 00:01:44,460 astrobiology Journal they say the 39 00:01:49,039 --> 00:01:46,320 ability of an environment to support the 40 00:01:52,639 --> 00:01:49,049 activity of at least one known organism 41 00:01:56,030 --> 00:01:52,649 and so on earth this definition doesn't 42 00:01:57,770 --> 00:01:56,040 work quite as well and so if you're 43 00:01:59,810 --> 00:01:57,780 comparing the Amazon rainforest to the 44 00:02:03,020 --> 00:01:59,820 Atacama Desert yes they are both 45 00:02:04,609 --> 00:02:03,030 habitable but there's varying degrees so 46 00:02:07,150 --> 00:02:04,619 the auto comet desert is not as 47 00:02:10,969 --> 00:02:07,160 habitable as the Amazon rainforest and 48 00:02:13,820 --> 00:02:10,979 so habitability at least on earth is a 49 00:02:16,370 --> 00:02:13,830 continuum life is ubiquitous 50 00:02:17,930 --> 00:02:16,380 and the distribution of life varies as a 51 00:02:20,750 --> 00:02:17,940 function of geology chemistry and 52 00:02:23,510 --> 00:02:20,760 physics these controlled amount of 53 00:02:24,950 --> 00:02:23,520 energy the amount of nutrients chemical 54 00:02:28,310 --> 00:02:24,960 compounds such as water that's available 55 00:02:32,660 --> 00:02:28,320 to life and so one of the aims of this 56 00:02:34,970 --> 00:02:32,670 work is to be able to use geologic and 57 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:34,980 hydrologic controls to try to predict 58 00:02:38,450 --> 00:02:36,330 how that would influence the 59 00:02:41,810 --> 00:02:38,460 habitability of an environment so in 60 00:02:43,550 --> 00:02:41,820 trying to plan a mission where would you 61 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:43,560 want to search for life what would be 62 00:02:48,790 --> 00:02:46,290 the most habitable environment within a 63 00:02:52,670 --> 00:02:48,800 terrestrial astre Penton izing ecosystem 64 00:02:55,070 --> 00:02:52,680 and so my natural laboratory is this 65 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:55,080 mail if you light in oman oman is 66 00:02:59,710 --> 00:02:57,330 locates located southeast of Saudi 67 00:03:02,750 --> 00:02:59,720 Arabia and the Arabian Peninsula and 68 00:03:05,150 --> 00:03:02,760 here's Hannah mentioned we have oceanic 69 00:03:07,310 --> 00:03:05,160 crust Olga Bros and upper mantle 70 00:03:10,460 --> 00:03:07,320 prototypes that were emplaced on to the 71 00:03:13,130 --> 00:03:10,470 continent during the Cretaceous and you 72 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:13,140 can kind of see a resemblance to an 73 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:16,050 extraterrestrial environment with the 74 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:18,450 smell a few light in the top image here 75 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:20,370 and you can see there's very little 76 00:03:27,199 --> 00:03:23,610 plant cover and it's a very arid climate 77 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:27,209 and so in Oman we have a unique 78 00:03:33,170 --> 00:03:29,910 opportunity to sample deep subsurface 79 00:03:35,270 --> 00:03:33,180 fluids domani government drilled Wells 80 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:35,280 into the ophiolite in search for water 81 00:03:40,759 --> 00:03:38,130 resources for their country which was 82 00:03:44,449 --> 00:03:40,769 not successful because most of these 83 00:03:47,420 --> 00:03:44,459 waters are above a pH of 11 but these 84 00:03:49,580 --> 00:03:47,430 wells span the crustal mantle transition 85 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:49,590 and so I've labeled the wells according 86 00:03:56,479 --> 00:03:52,650 to the rock type that they are located 87 00:03:58,640 --> 00:03:56,489 in and so we are able to sample various 88 00:04:01,490 --> 00:03:58,650 lithologies both gabbro and prototype 89 00:04:04,420 --> 00:04:01,500 across various hydrological regimes and 90 00:04:07,670 --> 00:04:04,430 I've labeled contact wells here in pink 91 00:04:10,039 --> 00:04:07,680 I distinguish these separately because 92 00:04:11,509 --> 00:04:10,049 they sit right between the gabbro and 93 00:04:15,110 --> 00:04:11,519 the pretty tight so it's difficult to 94 00:04:18,650 --> 00:04:15,120 tell what the water is actually reacting 95 00:04:21,620 --> 00:04:18,660 with and so in these wells we use a deep 96 00:04:23,570 --> 00:04:21,630 submersible pump to retrieve deep fluids 97 00:04:26,140 --> 00:04:23,580 for geochemical analysis and then we 98 00:04:27,939 --> 00:04:26,150 also filter five to ten liters of fluid 99 00:04:30,310 --> 00:04:27,949 to concentrate biomass so that we can 100 00:04:35,020 --> 00:04:30,320 sequence the DNA of any organisms that 101 00:04:37,779 --> 00:04:35,030 are living in the subsurface and so what 102 00:04:40,060 --> 00:04:37,789 we see at least geochemical e is highly 103 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:40,070 variable chemistry and so I show here a 104 00:04:43,689 --> 00:04:41,930 principal component analysis of 105 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:43,699 geochemical parameters that were 106 00:04:49,749 --> 00:04:46,570 measured all three years of our sampling 107 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:49,759 we only sample 12 wells but we were 108 00:04:53,980 --> 00:04:52,490 turned in the winter for three years so 109 00:04:57,189 --> 00:04:53,990 we have a total of twenty deep well 110 00:04:58,960 --> 00:04:57,199 samples and I plotted the variable 111 00:05:02,080 --> 00:04:58,970 loadings as vectors on this principle 112 00:05:04,180 --> 00:05:02,090 component analysis to show the 113 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:04,190 relationship of each of these chemical 114 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:05,840 parameters to the first and second 115 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:08,510 principle components and so principal 116 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:11,690 component one explains 52.3 percent of 117 00:05:16,900 --> 00:05:14,570 the variance and what you see is kind of 118 00:05:19,750 --> 00:05:16,910 these fluid chemistry's parsing out 119 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:19,760 based on chemistry to the right you see 120 00:05:27,580 --> 00:05:24,770 a higher pH calcium rich fluids which I 121 00:05:30,370 --> 00:05:27,590 labeled here as alkaline prototype which 122 00:05:32,439 --> 00:05:30,380 can be distinguished from the pink 123 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:32,449 pretty tight reacted fluids that are 124 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:34,490 more silica rich and have a much lower 125 00:05:43,270 --> 00:05:41,090 pH and so and so this variable 126 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:43,280 geochemistry can easily be explained by 127 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:45,530 differences in depth and extent of water 128 00:05:50,469 --> 00:05:48,110 rock reaction and so in the shallow 129 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:50,479 subsurface you would have weathering 130 00:05:55,450 --> 00:05:52,370 reactions in contact with atmospheric 131 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:55,460 oxygen and carbon dioxide and so you 132 00:05:59,980 --> 00:05:57,289 would whether your magnesium bearing 133 00:06:02,770 --> 00:05:59,990 minerals enriching fluids and magnesium 134 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:02,780 and bicarbonate and as Hannah mentioned 135 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:05,300 you're also increasing the pH these 136 00:06:10,899 --> 00:06:08,690 weathering reactions consume protons and 137 00:06:13,870 --> 00:06:10,909 at least in the shallow subsurface this 138 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:13,880 brings a pH to about eight or nine but 139 00:06:20,020 --> 00:06:16,720 if these fluids percolate deeper and 140 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:20,030 lose contact with the atmosphere this is 141 00:06:25,089 --> 00:06:21,770 when we really sea serpent anization 142 00:06:27,100 --> 00:06:25,099 processes happening your magnesium is 143 00:06:28,719 --> 00:06:27,110 preferentially going into secondary 144 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:28,729 minerals such as serpentine and brew 145 00:06:34,089 --> 00:06:31,250 site so your ritching fluids and calcium 146 00:06:38,050 --> 00:06:34,099 you're increasing the pH to about at NRL 147 00:06:39,399 --> 00:06:38,060 to about 10 and 11 maybe 12 and because 148 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:39,409 of that most of your di 149 00:06:43,749 --> 00:06:41,449 see is in the form of the carbonate 150 00:06:45,429 --> 00:06:43,759 anion and no longer bicarbonate and so 151 00:06:47,529 --> 00:06:45,439 you can precipitate out carbonate 152 00:06:49,929 --> 00:06:47,539 minerals and this really lowers the 153 00:06:51,549 --> 00:06:49,939 dissolved inorganic carbon concentration 154 00:06:53,229 --> 00:06:51,559 which would impact biology would be 155 00:06:56,829 --> 00:06:53,239 really hard to fix carbon if there's not 156 00:06:59,290 --> 00:06:56,839 much carbon to fix and I just want to 157 00:07:01,329 --> 00:06:59,300 point out that most of the previous work 158 00:07:03,059 --> 00:07:01,339 in these terrestrial systems has focused 159 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:03,069 solely on where these deep fluids 160 00:07:07,689 --> 00:07:05,360 re-emerged at the surface and seeps in 161 00:07:10,359 --> 00:07:07,699 contact with oxygen so the work I'm 162 00:07:12,489 --> 00:07:10,369 doing really expands a habitability 163 00:07:14,979 --> 00:07:12,499 assessment not only into the subsurface 164 00:07:16,869 --> 00:07:14,989 but i was looking at highly variable 165 00:07:21,279 --> 00:07:16,879 fluid chemistry and not just focusing on 166 00:07:23,679 --> 00:07:21,289 fluids that are ph 11 and 12 and so i 167 00:07:24,850 --> 00:07:23,689 end up seeing very diverse microbial 168 00:07:27,339 --> 00:07:24,860 communities don't worry i'm not going to 169 00:07:31,059 --> 00:07:27,349 go into particularly what organisms we 170 00:07:32,889 --> 00:07:31,069 see i just want to point out that we can 171 00:07:35,589 --> 00:07:32,899 predict at least somewhat what 172 00:07:39,129 --> 00:07:35,599 metabolisms might be occurring in the 173 00:07:41,019 --> 00:07:39,139 subsurface and from the looks of just 174 00:07:43,209 --> 00:07:41,029 looking at the what organisms that are 175 00:07:45,879 --> 00:07:43,219 there potentially we have hydrogen 176 00:07:48,579 --> 00:07:45,889 oxidation meth an agenda TSA's osita 177 00:07:51,509 --> 00:07:48,589 genesis sulfate reduction fermentation 178 00:07:54,279 --> 00:07:51,519 denitrification so very diverse 179 00:07:56,859 --> 00:07:54,289 metabolisms and just to point out we do 180 00:07:59,619 --> 00:07:56,869 see life so this isn't at a surface 181 00:08:01,659 --> 00:07:59,629 system where we have oxygen providing an 182 00:08:04,540 --> 00:08:01,669 accident these are probably very 183 00:08:07,269 --> 00:08:04,550 stressed fluids and we are easily able 184 00:08:10,779 --> 00:08:07,279 to sequence the DNA just using a basic 185 00:08:13,149 --> 00:08:10,789 power soil DNA kit concentrating just 186 00:08:17,319 --> 00:08:13,159 five to ten liters of fluid we can get 187 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:17,329 great results but there are huge impacts 188 00:08:22,719 --> 00:08:20,089 on diversity with pH and so here I've 189 00:08:24,819 --> 00:08:22,729 plotted pH versus richness richness is 190 00:08:27,939 --> 00:08:24,829 just the total number of microbial 191 00:08:29,259 --> 00:08:27,949 species detected in a sample and as you 192 00:08:31,540 --> 00:08:29,269 can see there's a strong negative 193 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:31,550 correlation we can't say this is a 194 00:08:35,649 --> 00:08:33,889 causation because pH co varies with a 195 00:08:39,969 --> 00:08:35,659 lot of other geochemical parameters such 196 00:08:43,929 --> 00:08:39,979 as calcium but you do know that these 197 00:08:45,549 --> 00:08:43,939 the ph of the fluids that you sample has 198 00:08:49,629 --> 00:08:45,559 a good indication of what type of 199 00:08:52,629 --> 00:08:49,639 diversity you might see and as you would 200 00:08:53,380 --> 00:08:52,639 expect different fluid chemistry's host 201 00:08:57,130 --> 00:08:53,390 different my 202 00:09:00,340 --> 00:08:57,140 Chromeo communities I show here an N MDS 203 00:09:02,470 --> 00:09:00,350 plot to ordinate the samples based on 204 00:09:04,690 --> 00:09:02,480 microbial community similarities so 205 00:09:06,550 --> 00:09:04,700 samples that plot closely together have 206 00:09:09,310 --> 00:09:06,560 more similar communities than samples 207 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:09,320 that plot very far and the size of the 208 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:12,890 sample point it correlates to the 209 00:09:17,470 --> 00:09:15,290 richness and so what we see from this is 210 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:17,480 that geologic context and the extent of 211 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:19,610 water action really control the 212 00:09:25,900 --> 00:09:23,450 microbial ecology our elkland prototype 213 00:09:27,460 --> 00:09:25,910 the shallow reaction and the gabbro have 214 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:27,470 very similar communities which makes 215 00:09:31,630 --> 00:09:29,150 sense because on the principle component 216 00:09:34,150 --> 00:09:31,640 analysis geochemistry they plotted right 217 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:34,160 next to each other we saw that the hyper 218 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:36,290 elkland prototype fluids had a very 219 00:09:40,570 --> 00:09:39,110 disparate geochemistry and they plot on 220 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:40,580 the opposite side of this ordination 221 00:09:43,630 --> 00:09:41,810 they have a very different microbial 222 00:09:45,370 --> 00:09:43,640 communities but I think most 223 00:09:47,560 --> 00:09:45,380 interestingly is that these contact 224 00:09:50,890 --> 00:09:47,570 fluids which on the PCA had a very 225 00:09:52,690 --> 00:09:50,900 variable geochemistry actually have a 226 00:09:54,940 --> 00:09:52,700 very unique microbial community 227 00:09:57,550 --> 00:09:54,950 composition compared to any other fluid 228 00:10:00,310 --> 00:09:57,560 type and so just to bring this all 229 00:10:03,100 --> 00:10:00,320 together and kind of expand a Hydra 230 00:10:05,590 --> 00:10:03,110 geochemical model of habitability there 231 00:10:08,290 --> 00:10:05,600 are a few sites of interest so in this 232 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:08,300 study we sampled the shallow prototype 233 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:10,310 fluids and deep fluids but we didn't 234 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:12,290 really capture a transition so we just 235 00:10:16,630 --> 00:10:14,930 have these two end members but 236 00:10:18,610 --> 00:10:16,640 theoretically somewhere in the 237 00:10:20,830 --> 00:10:18,620 subsurface you have to have a transition 238 00:10:21,910 --> 00:10:20,840 from a more oxidized fluid to a more 239 00:10:24,610 --> 00:10:21,920 reduced and that would be very 240 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:24,620 interesting biologically because that 241 00:10:28,690 --> 00:10:26,210 chemical disequilibrium would provide 242 00:10:31,150 --> 00:10:28,700 energy for microbial metabolism so in 243 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:31,160 the future we're trying to find Wells 244 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:32,810 and hopefully with a Mon drilling 245 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:35,210 project maybe we can drill well that 246 00:10:39,790 --> 00:10:37,610 captures some of the microbiology in 247 00:10:42,490 --> 00:10:39,800 those transitional fluids but also as I 248 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:42,500 just mentioned I am interested in these 249 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:45,170 contact fluids so I have added gabbro to 250 00:10:50,050 --> 00:10:48,290 this Hydra geochemical model and at 251 00:10:53,290 --> 00:10:50,060 these contact fluids you have a huge 252 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:53,300 change in permeability so gay bros are 253 00:10:57,820 --> 00:10:55,610 much more permeable you have these deep 254 00:11:00,940 --> 00:10:57,830 hyper elkland prototype foods injecting 255 00:11:03,100 --> 00:11:00,950 into gabbro which is facilitating mixing 256 00:11:06,250 --> 00:11:03,110 and again that's chemical disequilibrium 257 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:06,260 that could support life and during this 258 00:11:08,680 --> 00:11:07,130 injection you're actually 259 00:11:11,530 --> 00:11:08,690 forcing these fluids up to the surface 260 00:11:13,750 --> 00:11:11,540 so astro biologically if you're looking 261 00:11:15,490 --> 00:11:13,760 at a serpentine outcrop on Mars and you 262 00:11:17,350 --> 00:11:15,500 see a contact between pretty tight and 263 00:11:20,050 --> 00:11:17,360 gabbro maybe that's a place where you 264 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:20,060 would potentially find near-surface bio 265 00:11:40,660 --> 00:11:26,090 signatures and with that if any 266 00:11:42,700 --> 00:11:40,670 questions questions for Katie the risk 267 00:11:44,680 --> 00:11:42,710 of something obsessive I stucco mamonas 268 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:44,690 and reach that high pH in your cultures 269 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:46,130 to learn so I'm thinking maybe there's 270 00:11:51,330 --> 00:11:47,810 something interesting there when you 271 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:51,340 look at the 16s yeah you see when you go 272 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:53,690 to the higher pH is you have more 273 00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:55,610 abundance of coma Mona's compared to the 274 00:12:04,090 --> 00:12:01,040 other which is exactly what Stu the seed 275 00:12:07,060 --> 00:12:04,100 and I thought it's interesting the coma 276 00:12:10,900 --> 00:12:07,070 Mona Dacia the three you at higher pH is 277 00:12:12,850 --> 00:12:10,910 the same thing as your isolates yes so 278 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:12,860 there does seem to be at least for my 279 00:12:17,140 --> 00:12:14,450 dad I didn't go into this and this talk 280 00:12:19,870 --> 00:12:17,150 but a core similarity to at least these 281 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:19,880 deep hyper alkaline prototype fluids to 282 00:12:24,490 --> 00:12:21,530 other serpent enticing systems and even 283 00:12:26,860 --> 00:12:24,500 to trust us repented izing seeps but i 284 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:26,870 actually do see i guess some species 285 00:12:30,970 --> 00:12:29,210 that aren't commonly associated with 286 00:12:33,130 --> 00:12:30,980 other trust Joe serpent izing systems 287 00:12:35,950 --> 00:12:33,140 like thermode a self over B Rene say and 288 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:35,960 mayo thermos may a thermos has found its 289 00:12:39,310 --> 00:12:37,250 surface heaps and thought to be aerobic 290 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:39,320 but I only find it in my deep fluid so 291 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:41,600 it's interesting there is a core 292 00:12:43,900 --> 00:12:42,770 similarity but there's also a lot of 293 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:43,910 differences to what other people are 294 00:12:47,860 --> 00:12:46,130 seeing and yeah I'm one more question 295 00:12:50,890 --> 00:12:47,870 attention one more question is the rota 296 00:12:52,660 --> 00:12:50,900 cycle each other to detect in the NS HQ 297 00:12:57,190 --> 00:12:52,670 do you know the characteristics of that 298 00:13:04,510 --> 00:12:57,200 site and I say to you which one 410 and 299 00:13:07,930 --> 00:13:04,520 it's HQ 10 no I do not well NS HQ 300 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:07,940 tenants a contact well we do weren't 301 00:13:12,130 --> 00:13:10,130 able to measure any reduce software 302 00:13:16,270 --> 00:13:12,140 species as some of those roto cycle ACR 303 00:13:18,430 --> 00:13:16,280 I'm involved in software cycling but 304 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:18,440 that's like a pH of about eight 305 00:13:23,380 --> 00:13:21,170 okay yeah and what dude can you have an 306 00:13:26,620 --> 00:13:23,390 idea of what so there could be hydrogen 307 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:26,630 oxidation coupled to metal reduction 308 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:31,010 there so in most of these lower ph foods 309 00:13:35,620 --> 00:13:33,890 it seems like you have nitrate as the 310 00:13:37,210 --> 00:13:35,630 primary electron acceptor but you could 311 00:13:39,340 --> 00:13:37,220 have hydrogen oxidation coupled to 312 00:13:41,620 --> 00:13:39,350 nitrate but we don't actually detect 313 00:13:43,450 --> 00:13:41,630 hydrogen in the that fluid but it could 314 00:14:00,340 --> 00:13:43,460 be below the detection limit drawn down 315 00:14:02,350 --> 00:14:00,350 by microorganisms thank you I may be 316 00:14:03,730 --> 00:14:02,360 confusing concepts and maybe reaching a 317 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:03,740 little bit on this one but I'm just 318 00:14:06,970 --> 00:14:05,450 noticing that as you were mentioning 319 00:14:09,010 --> 00:14:06,980 there was a correlation is saying that 320 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:09,020 the authentic relation saying that there 321 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:12,320 was more biodiversity at lower more 322 00:14:17,590 --> 00:14:14,810 acidic ph s and i realized that they may 323 00:14:19,750 --> 00:14:17,600 have more ideas may have more hydrogen 324 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:19,760 concentrations and the hydrogen has 325 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:22,370 electron donation is there a reason why 326 00:14:26,910 --> 00:14:24,770 a high electron donation and or hydrogen 327 00:14:30,670 --> 00:14:26,920 would actually be an increase of 328 00:14:33,010 --> 00:14:30,680 actually a biodiversity per se so it's 329 00:14:34,660 --> 00:14:33,020 hydrogen gas that's the great electron 330 00:14:37,540 --> 00:14:34,670 donor for metabolism we see that in the 331 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:37,550 really high ph fluids but for as for pH 332 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:39,170 being at a high pH is really stressful 333 00:14:44,530 --> 00:14:41,450 for microorganism you need a proton pump 334 00:14:47,380 --> 00:14:44,540 to be able to have metabolism and so 335 00:14:50,140 --> 00:14:47,390 somehow they're having to compensate for 336 00:14:54,190 --> 00:14:50,150 the lack of protons in those fluids to 337 00:14:57,550 --> 00:14:54,200 be able to live at all and so when i say 338 00:15:00,490 --> 00:14:57,560 more it's there still elkland so it's 339 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:00,500 like a ph 8 to 9 but that's way less 340 00:15:04,570 --> 00:15:02,330 stressful to my our microorganism you'd 341 00:15:06,310 --> 00:15:04,580 expect many more microorganisms to be 342 00:15:18,870 --> 00:15:06,320 able to adapt to that type of setting as 343 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:22,090 thank you thank you add a related 344 00:15:26,710 --> 00:15:24,530 question i was wondering in terms of 345 00:15:29,140 --> 00:15:26,720 diversity is there a cut off into 346 00:15:31,930 --> 00:15:29,150 revocable threshold when you go below 347 00:15:34,630 --> 00:15:31,940 the ph's that you showed today in terms 348 00:15:36,270 --> 00:15:34,640 of large amounts of diversity what do 349 00:15:38,230 --> 00:15:36,280 you see in terms of the more acidic 350 00:15:40,570 --> 00:15:38,240 systems that you're not necessarily 351 00:15:43,450 --> 00:15:40,580 looking at in this study so i would say 352 00:15:45,370 --> 00:15:43,460 usually phu in most environments you 353 00:15:46,990 --> 00:15:45,380 wouldn't see such a gradient of pH and 354 00:15:49,810 --> 00:15:47,000 pH wouldn't necessarily be your 355 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:49,820 controlling factor so this is a system 356 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:51,410 or look talking about an oligotrophic 357 00:15:56,080 --> 00:15:54,410 groundwater system there probably isn't 358 00:15:58,870 --> 00:15:56,090 a lot of organic carbon we did measure 359 00:16:02,080 --> 00:15:58,880 organic acids and they're like in micro 360 00:16:03,330 --> 00:16:02,090 molar concentrations but those possibly 361 00:16:05,470 --> 00:16:03,340 arose from serpent anization 362 00:16:07,750 --> 00:16:05,480 photosynthesis we have no idea at this 363 00:16:09,580 --> 00:16:07,760 point but compared to like an organic 364 00:16:11,710 --> 00:16:09,590 rich system you can support a lot more 365 00:16:15,820 --> 00:16:11,720 diversity just because you have a lot 366 00:16:17,530 --> 00:16:15,830 more energy so at our low pH wells that 367 00:16:20,020 --> 00:16:17,540 are less stressful to the microorganisms 368 00:16:22,090 --> 00:16:20,030 there's not many electron donors that we 369 00:16:24,370 --> 00:16:22,100 know of that are in those fluids to 370 00:16:25,990 --> 00:16:24,380 support life and so there are some 371 00:16:28,060 --> 00:16:26,000 organic molecules so there's some 372 00:16:29,830 --> 00:16:28,070 heterotrophic organisms there's possibly 373 00:16:33,370 --> 00:16:29,840 hydrogen that's just being drawn down 374 00:16:37,300 --> 00:16:33,380 but there actually isn't much to support 375 00:16:40,180 --> 00:16:37,310 life there it's freshwater so you would 376 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:40,190 expect an even greater diversity on the 377 00:16:50,110 --> 00:16:43,010 scale of all life looking at anything